so, like, on reread it’s pretty explicit that yeah Amadeus lost his Name and was non-Named for that fight

I have two separate explanations for this which both fuck me up separately but also work together and explain each other

1) he said early on that what distinguishes individuals with Roles from those without (Named from non-Named) is their willingness to inflict their will on reality, to make Creation conform to what they want / think is right
2) Catherine told him to become someone worthy of living in the better world she’s building, and it had enough of an impact on him Wekesa commented he basically got a second youth out of it

conclusion from both of the above: Amadeus held on to his faith in his own ability to tell right from wrong and fix the world for as long as he could, as said in his conversation with Ranker, but it held on by a thread

a thread consisting of the remains of the Praesi mindset in him: if you want to prove me wrong, beat me

when he did indeed get beaten, and in a way he did not anticipate at all, the thread snapped

right now Amadeus is non-Named becuase he no longer thinks he’s actually qualified to make decisions for what’s better for Creation

like, he’s not lost his ability to determine what he wants, or his will to go through with decisions: he faced off against several heroes when unNamed just out of principle to go out with a bang

but his whole THING was about making a better world, he did not hang onto his Role by his desires and selfishness and pride, he hung onto it by his belief in what was right and his drive to affect change that he believed would be for the better

and now when Cat kicked his ass into character development gear, the first thing that happened was him giving up on this certainity

he doesn’t KNOW what’s better, and he’s willing to let others decide instead

and that, I think, is the mindset Amadeus of the Green Stretch is currently in, captured or whatever

IMHO
1) it’s not going to hold. Amadeus is not the kind of person who just gives up on doing what’s right, he’s just going through a temporary crisis of confidence
2) no he’s not going to die or be irrelevant, jeez. too much build up, and Cat broke the story where he dies already. also dying would prove right his opinions from earlier and this is not a story about how he was right about those
3) his second attempt at doing what’s right is going to be As An Actual Hero and I would pay real life money to see that if I had any to give erratic

on an unrelated-to-the-latest-chapter note, the section of the PGTE fanbase that thinks Black practices what he preaches and is not the most colossal dumbass in the history of dumbasses is

annoying

thevenomrex:

lilietsblog:

so there were two whole new chapters, cool! plot! I am really super fucking glad to see Catherine seriously turn cloak on the Below! And to go back to her traditional diplomatic way of ‘bluntly straightforward’!

but all of that pales in the face of

At my father, for being so much less than he could be.

Not only because Catherine says this so casually now and I am dead.

But also, because there’s no fucking way this isn’t foreshadowing for SOMETHING that’s comng.

Atonement with the father?

I mean, it also fits rather well beyond the literal meaning.

I think that was in Keter with King Edward VII 😀

What I think is that it’s foreshadowing for Black coming back to the plot, with his own character arc being, in fact, learning to be all he can be in the exact way Catherine means here 😀

my most absurd, embarrassing and unconfident pgte prediction

compasswithhat:

lilietsblog:

that im basing on almost exclusively ‘that would be so fucking hilarious if it happened’

Keep reading

This… this would be perfect. Like… he would achieve his goal. His one true goal. To tell the heavens to fuck off. Wow. Like… it would be perfect.

And utterly hilarious.
“So… you’re a hero now.”
“Yep.”
“How does it feel?”
“I miss being able to crucify my problems.”
“I can relate.”

I KNOW RIGHT

so there were two whole new chapters, cool! plot! I am really super fucking glad to see Catherine seriously turn cloak on the Below! And to go back to her traditional diplomatic way of ‘bluntly straightforward’!

but all of that pales in the face of

At my father, for being so much less than he could be.

Not only because Catherine says this so casually now and I am dead.

But also, because there’s no fucking way this isn’t foreshadowing for SOMETHING that’s comng.

“There is such a thing as the greater good,” I replied.  […] 

Black smiled strangely, still staring into the fire.

“I am the wrong person to debate matters of morality, I think,” he replied. “The truth of it is that I am the most selfish man you’ll ever meet, and I’ve yet to lose so much as a night’s sleep over it. But you asked me a question.”

ah yes… the most selfish person in Guide…

the most damningly obvious foreshadowing for that theory of mine

from Book 2 Chapter 15: Council

He chuckled and I turned to glare at him but found his finger pointing at me. He poked my forehead gently.

“Human,” he reminded me. “Villain, but still human. It’s all right to want things for yourself, Catherine.”

I’m sorry, villain? How the fuck does the word villain fit into that line, other than that’s what they both are?

How the fuck is being a VILLAIN in any way in contradiction with wanting things for yourself?

“I don’t want to be the kind of person who hurts others for her own sake,” I admitted quietly.

“There’s nothing righteous about martyrdom,” Black spoke, tone thick with distaste. “How gloriously they die on their pyres, those blessed few who think themselves above all of… this. And yet what do they really accomplish? Refusing to accept reality for what it is instead of what you think it should be is not being high-minded, it is cowardice. I take no guidance from someone whose crowning achievement is their own death. Sacrifice solves nothing on its own. It is no substitute for the labour needed to change things, just an easy way out.”

bLACK

Black why are you talking about what’s righteous. Why are you talking about who you take guidance from. Black what the fuck are you talking abo-

ah, you’re aiming to martyr yourself in service of greater Praes by getting Cat to kill you and take over. Okay then, Mr Definitely-Not-Talking-About-Himself-Here

my most absurd, embarrassing and unconfident pgte prediction

that im basing on almost exclusively ‘that would be so fucking hilarious if it happened’

Amadeus of the Green Stretch becomes a Hero

there’s lots of things throughout the text that can be taken as foreshadowing of this, and then of course there’s Cat’s directive, and then there’s his personality

the question is not whether it CAN happen – I’m fairly certain it can – but whether the plot will bend into sufficient pretzels that it WILL

I… actually kind of expect it to.

Because that would be amazing.